When should Americans trust the president? Should they trust the president? Is it phony or real when he says that president Obama was wire tapping him?>> Well again let's get back I think there's two things that are important about what he said. I think, recognizing that it's, he doesn't really think that president Obama went up and and tapped his phone personally.
But I think there's no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election. That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then. The president used the word, wiretap in quotes, to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities during that.
>> Can you say affirmatively that whenever the President says something, we can trust it to be real?>> If he's not joking, of course. But in that case, hold on. But, no, you're asking. Hold on.>> Okay, no. But your point is, I mean, every time that he speaks authoritatively speaking as President of the United States.
More than 3 million Americans voted illegally. Was that->> Yes and he still believes that.>> Was he joking or does he believe it?>> He does believe it.