North Korea is a strange place. We're not dealing with Italy or France here, even the old Soviet Union. So they're playing a game. Kim Jong-Un, these nuclear weapons are something he's psychologically attached to, they would give him his prestige and importance. We're not talking about him because of his global and economic power, we're talking about him because they have nuclear weapons and long range missiles and he knows that.
And so for him to give that up is gonna be very difficult. So my suspicion remains that he is gonna try to get as much sanctions relief as possible without having to give up his weapons and I think it's gonna be a lot of twists and turns along the way to try to get there if it's even possible.
But I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see them denuclearize. I'm not very optimistic about that.