We've said, from the diplomatic side, we're ready to talk any time North Korea would like to talk. And we're ready to have the first meeting without precondition. Let's just meet, and we can talk about the weather if you want. We can talk about whether if it's gonna be a square table or a round table if that's what you're excited about.
Can we at least sit down and see each other face to face. And then we can begin to lay out a map, a road map of what we might be willing to work towards. I don't think, it's not realistic to say we're only gonna talk if you come to the table ready to give up your program.
They have too much invested in it. And the president's very realistic about that as well.