The President pledged very specifically to continue to help us, that he's got our back. And I thought that was a very positive thing, and there have been some back and forth between California leaders and the President. But in this, in the face of tragedy, people tend to rise above some of their lesser propensities.
So I think we're on a good path, but it's still going to be difficult, because the only way to assure the long-term forest health, it's not just cutting trees. It's going to require reducing carbon emissions and eventually, sooner rather later, to zero. And if we don't do that, you're going to see these fires not only continuing, but getting worse by the year as they are.
The last five years, the fires have never been this bad. This fire in Malibu is the worst they ever seen. This fire in Paradise in northern California was the worst in the history of California. So you can mold the science, but I'll tell you every year it's gonna get clearer and clearer.
So that I think, in less than five years, even the worst skeptics are gonna be believers.