The concept of Russia, with respect to us, is a total phony story.>> You mean in the Trump Campaign.>> Of course it's a total phony story. In fact, I just heard where General Flynn got his clearance from the Obama administration.>> But you don't mean it's.>> Excuse me.
And when he went to Russia, I didn't realize this, when he went to Russia, it was 2015, and he was on the Obama clearance. When General Flynn came to us, as you now know, he already had the highest clearance you can have. I think the same clearance as the President of the United States would have.
He had this really high clearance. And by the way, they're so devastated, because this only came up two days ago. That kills them, that's the end of that subject.>> You don't think it's phony that they, the Russians, tried to meddle in the election? You believe that.>> That, I don't know.
I don't know.>> That you don't know, or you do know?>> Well, I have a problem. You have Podesta, who by the way, I understand has a company with his brother in Russia. Hillary's husband make speeches in Russia, Hillary did a uranium deal with Russia, nobody ever talks about that.
But I don't know because the FBI was not allowed by Podesta to go and in and check all of the records and their servers and everything else that you'd normally have to check. That's number one. Number two, knowing something about hacking. If you don't catch a hacker, okay, in the act, it's very hard to say who did the hacking.
With that being said, I'll go along with Russia. It could have been China. It could have been a lot of different groups.>> So, President Trump is ambivalent about, or not ambivalent, but just not sure.>> No, I'm not. No. We have to find out what happened. I'd love to find out what happened.
>> But, you don't think it's the Russians?>> I can tell you one thing. It had nothing to do with us. Had nothing to do with this, and everyone knows it.