There should be no place for terrorist to hide. We need to make sure that organizations like WhatsApp and there were plenty of all this like that don't provide a secret place for terrorists to communicate with each other. But on this situation, we need to make sure that our intelligence services have the ability to get into situations like encrypted WhatsApp.
We're not saying open up. We don't want to go into the cloud. We don't want to do all sorts of things like that. But we do want them to recognize that they have a responsibility to engage with government, to engage with law enforcement agencies when there is a terrorist situation.
We would do it all through the carefully thought through, legally covered arrangements, but they cannot get away with saying we are a different situation. They are not.