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the anti government militants who need federal property in rural Oregon shouldn't count on any back up other militia groups in America are steering clear I mean it Solomon a national correspondent for Reuters it doesn't look like a small group that hold up in Oregon wildlife preserve his winning many allied paramilitary groups across the United States telling me that while they share the Oregon groups concerned about federal policies different neither the kind nor the place to make a stand east federal agencies began a , and attack on this this family given the facts on the ground national militia groups like the oath keepers in the three percent are keeping their distance and local militias tell me they don't support the standoff either that's a big change from the last time homegrown militias made the headlines back in twenty fourteen hundreds of armed activists rallied to support Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy would benefit you with the federal government over grazing fees after a few tense week the feds backed down a major victory for those far right groups , I want the federal government to abide by the constitution of the United States one of the leaders of the new stand up happens to be Bundy stunned Ammon but this time it's different it turns out Ammon Bundy a few years back even took out a five hundred and thirty thousand dollar federal loan the rancher third battling the federal government and they don't want an armed , because they just want these guys to go home now that could all change you know lacks the tender hanging back for the moment the militia members tell me they're ready to step in if they see them acting too aggressively even ready to start shooting it becomes that